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revolves around something like <I>leverage is bad, banks were overleveraged, ergo banks are bad</I><BR/><BR/>but the only one of the 5 who went bankrupt is the least leveraged and the only one who kept a fairly constant leverage for the last 10 years. Which is Citigroup (PS: Citigropu didn't go bankrupt, I know, but only because Timmy went to their rescue. ANyway, my point is that Citi is by far the one in the worst condition among the 5)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2948538160252327076.post-29192032102459395842009-03-23T17:21:00.000+00:002009-03-23T17:21:00.000+00:00Cannot see that this outrage over "leverage" is mu...Cannot see that this outrage over "leverage" is much different from the old Douglasite protests at private banks creating credit. In which case the old remedies: Social Credit ( Douglas) and Stamp Scrip still apply,possibly.DBC Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17891849727783879145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2948538160252327076.post-37197628343015609972009-03-23T15:28:00.000+00:002009-03-23T15:28:00.000+00:00You write as though the banks made some kind of mi...You write as though the banks made some kind of mistake. They didn't. Employees made huge sums of money, as simple as that.<BR/>Criticising those much richer than yourself is meaningless.<BR/>They won and the UK taxpayer lost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2948538160252327076.post-3965877289734500392009-03-23T15:17:00.000+00:002009-03-23T15:17:00.000+00:00There is something childlike about a bank that pus...<I>There is something childlike about a bank that pushes up its leverage ratio when the economy is booming</I><BR/><BR/>Maybe not: <BR/><BR/>What IF said bank was hedging by buying CDS on it's own debt? ANY amount of leverage would be perfectly OK then. <BR/><BR/>What IF The Management of said bank was hedging privately by buying CDS on the banks debt debt? <BR/><BR/>It's all OTC, who would ever find out??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2948538160252327076.post-78107108205594210762009-03-23T12:38:00.000+00:002009-03-23T12:38:00.000+00:00immature and untutored belief that the world is a ...<I>immature and untutored belief that the world is a calm and benign place</I><BR/><BR/>clearly you are right overall, but <I>untutored</I> may be too strong<BR/><BR/>there was no shortage of 'reputable' economists preaching the <I>New Moderation</I> which, because it was founded upon the thesis that regulators and central banks had discovered the secret of eternal low-inflation growth, offered the prospect of actually reduced macro-riskNick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2948538160252327076.post-27930363343770538292009-03-23T12:13:00.000+00:002009-03-23T12:13:00.000+00:00@Boat52Quite so. 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Leverage ratios were the manifestation of that belief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com